Let me get this straight:
Mar. 18th, 2012 03:24 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Blog: We shouldn't question the stories of female rape victims.
Rape victim: I recant. I wasn't raped.
Blog: How do we know she's telling the truth about not being raped? We don't really know what happened!
http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90655
Also from that blog; http://feministing.com/2007/04/12/you_will_not_shame_me/
The funny thing is that in the Hofstra case, the same blog came down on the side of the defendant, even though the accused were black, and tried to soft-shoe around the whole "black men false accused of rape" with "we need to look at the bigger picture!" and "there are more reasons for someone to rape than to falsely accuse!" and "how will this affect future victims?". GOOD JERB WITH THE CONSISTENT MORAL STANDARDS THAR.
http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90668
EDIT: Here's a more recent post, where the blogger seems actively offended by the discussion of bias against men who are accused of rape. She also thinks they should've mentioned rape right on the poster, which she would've doubtless decried as insensitive and a trigger. in fact, she specifically showed up just to hijack the topic, and wants backpatting and hugs for it. Ironically, as some commenters pointed out, she did the exact same thing as men who make it "all about the menz" in feminist discussions.
Rape victim: I recant. I wasn't raped.
Blog: How do we know she's telling the truth about not being raped? We don't really know what happened!
http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90655
Also from that blog; http://feministing.com/2007/04/12/you_will_not_shame_me/
Moreover, innocent until proven guilty only applies to certain people.Speaking as a black man myself who had an encounter that may or may not have been racism on my way to church this morning; if it's so bad, why do you want anyone to go through it?
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So, if these guys were in fact falsely accused, they got a taste of how black men are treated EVERY DAY by the criminal justice system.
The funny thing is that in the Hofstra case, the same blog came down on the side of the defendant, even though the accused were black, and tried to soft-shoe around the whole "black men false accused of rape" with "we need to look at the bigger picture!" and "there are more reasons for someone to rape than to falsely accuse!" and "how will this affect future victims?". GOOD JERB WITH THE CONSISTENT MORAL STANDARDS THAR.
http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90668
THIS.
The whole “let’s look at the bigger picture here” glosses over such a huge component of this issue that it’s downright nuts. The fact that these guys were African American played a huge role in every step of this case.
It seems callous to try to go macro scale before looking at the micro. This kind of stuff matters to folks who are troubled by the fact that they’re perceived as sex-crazy beasts driven by lust, especially in the context of the legal system.
EDIT: Here's a more recent post, where the blogger seems actively offended by the discussion of bias against men who are accused of rape. She also thinks they should've mentioned rape right on the poster, which she would've doubtless decried as insensitive and a trigger. in fact, she specifically showed up just to hijack the topic, and wants backpatting and hugs for it. Ironically, as some commenters pointed out, she did the exact same thing as men who make it "all about the menz" in feminist discussions.
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Date: 2012-03-18 03:51 pm (UTC)The irony to me is I thought 'perceived as sex-crazy beasts driven by lust' was a meme applied to all men in the Western world, much less blacks.
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Date: 2012-03-18 08:36 pm (UTC)I and a few of the commenters also noticed the irony of saying that there is nothing wrong with the Duke "victim" being a stripper, but tries to impugn the players' characters because they hired a stripper. The weird thing is that the Feministe post on the matter I previously mentioned (http://mcity.livejournal.com/355113.html) did the exact same thing. It is seriously worrying that there are two major feminist blogs using the same double standards, hypocrisy, and sexism.
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Date: 2012-03-18 05:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-03-18 08:43 pm (UTC)http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90638
http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90682
I also love how (http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-2/#comment-90686) people (http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-90683) go (http://feministing.com/2009/09/18/hofstra-rape-culture-and-the-bigger-picture/comment-page-2/#comment-90687) "She was probably raped; who really wants to have sex with five men at once?" Well, um, the accuser, apparently. What's wrong with having a consensual encounter with five men at once? That sounds an awful lot like slut-shaming, ma'am.