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Someone on my deviantWatch just made a post saying that Olivia from SVU is a stronger female character than Beckett from Castle, who is apparently a Mary Sue.

Okay, it is kind of interesting to look at Beckett in isolation, compared to the way she was "designed"; as Castle's counterpart and Love Interest, and he for her. Both characters are intended to complement each other. Beckett doling out little tidbits actually reinforces her emotional isolation, especially in comparison to how Castle will cheerfully talk about details of his personal life, or accidentally let personal details slip. Beckett is a lot more strategic in her small talk (and yes, I speak from experience). As for her heels, she's a fashion-conscious detective, and we all have our vices. Detectives don't actually do that much running.

She has been used as a distraction, but she's an attractive women and knows it. The team has no problem using Castle in exactly the same fashion. "Hey, famous playboy good-looking writer, go over there and distract people!" Most of the time, IIRC, Kate is the one who decides to be a distraction, and on one occasion her sexy act saved Castle's life. And most importantly, she's the head of a three-man detective team, and had a deeper backstory than the title character of the show. The show plays fast and loose with "realism" in the first place; just ask someone with relevant knowledge about the steampunk episode.

The funny thing is that they really like every other female character on the show, but somehow missed the point of the female lead. If they're doing such a good job on everyone else, maybe you're just misreading the character. I mean, TVTropes can't find anything really objectionable about the show. TVTropes.

Speaking of which; yes, the female characters on Everybody Hates Chris tend to be irritating jerks. Just like the male characters.

Date: 2012-02-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skanrashke.livejournal.com
I always liked olivia from fringe as a strong female character. She's a badass, but she's also a woman at the same time, and maintains a pretty good balance of the two- generally women are portrayed as characterizations and not as people on television, and are either one extreme or the other or have oafishly unrealistic tendencies drawn from nonsensical feminine steriotypes. I don't know SVU at all, and have only seen a smidge of castle, but just wanted to throw that out there. One of my favourite discussions is what makes a good female character, because female leads are so unusual you can tell who wrote the script(either a man or a woman) by how the lead is portrayed(And also how to tell how good the writer is, the more human the lead, generally the better the writer and you usually can't tell their sex by their portrayal). ANYWAYS I WILL STOP HERE BEFORE I WRITE A DISSERTATION.

Date: 2012-02-26 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
One of the interesting things about Ms. Dunham was that she's portrayed as a very non-demonstrative character, a lot like Beckett. A lot of people thought that the actress was just lacking. Then we meet her alternate universe counterpart, and the character was so different from her regular self a lot of watchers wondered if she was played by a different actress entirely. And no more complaints about Torv's acting.

That previous post was supposed to be spoilered.

Date: 2012-02-26 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
I don't know why it didn't work.

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