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Alex: I have this criticism to make about feminism and women's studies.
Bobbie: You really mean ladies, right? You're saying all women are like that? Well, that's just not true. Besides, it's who put men in jail, and men who rape other men. Women don't do any of that.
Me: Wow. There is literally no part of what you said that isn't wrong in some way.
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Once again, it's men who rape, men who commit violent crimes and men who incarcerate them. there are no credible studies that prove otherwise.

Your insistance on this unsupported, unfounded line of reasoning makes one thing clear:

Your aim is not to help men. Your sole aim is to villify women.

I am not making this up.

Date: 2012-09-13 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] degraine.livejournal.com
The shit being said in those comments is pretty appalling. I can't tell if the one about 'it stops them eating/killing the kid because of their scary male aggression' is sarcastic or not, but the replies seem to be taking it pretty seriously.

And I love* the hypocrisy inherent in saying 'if you want to complain about how feminism's ruined your life do it in private to other men where we don't have to hear about it, otherwise shut up and be a good conformist to the propaganda'.

Date: 2012-09-13 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
The sad thing is, that's the standard response to someone bringing up the oppression of men; accuse them of attempting to derail, say that they're trying to diminish women's suffering, ignore them, or try to make them out to be a misogynist saying women are all responsible for men's suffering. Rarely is the actual issue addressed. The last one is...particularly interesting in light of social justice's usual "everything is the patriarchy's fault, and therefore men's fault".

The funny thing is that more moderate "masculinist" sites usually have no problem whatsoever comparing oppression against men to oppression against women, without acting like the two are matter and antimatter.

Date: 2012-09-13 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] degraine.livejournal.com
Which is why I'm more inclined to actually read what they've got to say (aside from, you know, being a Western male myself). I've been reading a lot of A Voice For Men's articles. Probably too many...there are some very angry people on that website, which is to be expected, but the signal-to-noise in the comments is actually somewhat better than I expected.

GirlWritesWhat is pretty incisive. I can never post in her comments though for some reason.

Heartiste, holy shit. That fella just does not give any fucks.

Date: 2012-09-13 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
http://goodmenproject.com/category/noseriouslywhatabouttehmenz/
http://www.feministcritics.org/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/the-unequal-housework-fallacy/
> If breadwinner wives aren’t happy with this arrangement, there’s a simple solution: learn to be happy with a slightly less than spotless home. Or hire a Mexican.

Wow. You weren't kiddin'.

Date: 2012-09-13 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] degraine.livejournal.com
It's like putting Chris Rock and young Eddie Murphy in a blender.

And thank you for the links! ...just what I need, more articles to read when I really need to be doing my schoolwork.

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